This is a quote from an interview that that dangerous wadical wabbit, Mme. Amy Goodman, did with Noam Chomsky, whom we ALL know is a baaadass radical. He's also one of the best analytical minds on the planet, and, happily for those who care, he chose truth as his medium.
....."Now that—side-by-side with that is something else that’s been happening. There is a significant peace movement in Afghanistan. Exactly its scale, we don’t know. But it’s enough so that Pamela Constable of the Washington Post, in a recent article in Afghanistan, argued that when the new American troops come, they’re going to face two enemies: the Taliban and public opinion, meaning the peace movement, whose slogan is “Put down the weapons. And we don’t mind if you’re here, but for aid and development. We don’t want any more fighting.”
In fact, we know from Western-run polls that about 75 percent of Afghans are in favor of negotiations among Afghans. Now, that includes the Taliban, who are Afghans. In fact, it even includes the ones in Pakistan. There’s the difference—the really troubled areas, now, are Pashtun areas, which are split by a British-imposed line, artificial line, called the Durand Line, which was imposed by the British to protect British India, expand it, and they’ve never accepted it. It just cuts their territory in half. Afghanistan, when it was a functioning state, never accepted it, right through the 1970s.* But certainly, the Afghan Taliban are Afghans. And President Karzai, formerly our man, no longer, because he’s getting out of control—
*(Italics are mine, to put it out plainly that it's a mistake to say, as we do here, "Those people have been fighting amongst themselves forever!" I'm sure you've heard that comment, and it's patently unfair)
AMY GOODMAN: How? How is he getting out of control?
NOAM CHOMSKY: Well, interesting ways. When President Obama was elected, Afghan President Karzai sent him a message, which, as far as I know, was unanswered, in which he pleaded with President Obama to stop killing Afghans. He also addressed a UN delegation and told them he wanted a timetable for the removal of foreign forces. Well, his popularity quickly plummeted. He used to be very much praised for his nice clothes and great demeanor and very much admired by the media and commentators. Now he’s sunk very low. He’s suddenly corrupt and so on.
AMY GOODMAN: You mean in the Western world, the Western press?
NOAM CHOMSKY: In the Western world, primarily in the United States, but in the West altogether. And it directly followed these expressions of opinion, which are very likely those of maybe a majority of Afghans, maybe even more.
In fact, he went even further. He said that he would invite Mullah Omar, the head of the Taliban, to Afghanistan to try to work out a solution. And he added, “The United States isn’t going to like this, but they have two choices: they can either accept it, or they can throw me out,” you know. In fact, that’s what they’re doing. There are now plans to replace President Karzai, to sort of push him upstairs and leave him in a—it’s assumed that he’ll win the next election, so put him in a symbolic position and impose, basically, a US-appointed surrogate who will essentially run the country, because that can’t be tolerated."
IF you would like to read the WHOLE interview, go HERE It contains other things you may not like either, but I'm not focused on them.
I'm just so sick to DEATH of the liars, frankly. I want to just skip along looking for butterflies and pretty posies, but life is being lost, and a lot of it is YOUNG life, and I'll just save the gamboling through the tulips for some other time.
You know, I don't read very many of the big blogs any more, because my friends are here.
ReplyDeleteThank you for saying these things out loud.
k
Thank you for posting and for all your support, k.
ReplyDeleteIt's very hard to go on like nothing is happening when my heart tells me how little of importance ever reaches the ears of US citizens, the very people who could make a difference if they were only informed. We really do care about others, but we've been so consistently lied to and "dumbed down" that there's hardly any discernment left in our judgement.
Karma or no, it's not right, and it utterly destroys the soul to ignore the terror that our leaders have caused the Innocents of this world. They aren't responsible for the World Bank, the IMF, or "renegade" puppet dictators that we roll over them to get to, no more than the people of America were responsible for what happened on 9 11. We have to look to rotten leaders for that blame.
Well, there's another rant. I'm still really reaaally angry about it all. It hardly shows, eh?
*bitter laughter ensues*
Stop the fighting in Afghanistan is a really good idea. Home rule is a good idea. The problem with the Taliban is that it excludes women from any decision-making position. It dehumanizes women, makes them property, goes back to the 13th century and the situation that caused so much trouble in Afghanistan before 9/11, before our involvement.
ReplyDeleteThe morning paper today has a photo of two Afghan men caning a woman in the street for an unspecified reason. But it's in an area of Taliban rule, so nobody did anything. She's just a woman.
Thanks for your comments, Pogonip.
ReplyDeleteMyself, I don't care for the Taliban at all; they are the re- emergence of something that ran amok in that country before the Russians started paying particular attention to Afghanistan. The Russians, watching across the border actually made the lives of Afghan women more equal. I went to Uni with several Afghan women, here on scholarships, and they were the ones who made the comments about the pressure put on the men in Afghanistan by the Russian presence.
So, sometimes things can be made good for women with just a little pressure. That all change of course, when the United States started to arm the warlords and make a clandestine war. Things really got nasty there for women because the power shift was back to the dark ages, so to speak.
It is to this country's everlasting shame that we financed the Taliban in our cold war struggle against Russia. Without our aid, they may never have gained the power they have today. Or maybe not. It's impossible to tell. But the Taliban is as close to evil as I've seen.
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